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X-Pertise
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Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 419
Location: NY, USA
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 Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: Alabama: Stopped because of dogs IN CAR! |
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I think this part of the forum should have its name changed to Legislation and AR because they are no longer coming at us specifically through breed specific legislation alone. The animal rights movement has gone far beyond that with MSN, dog limits, breeder legislation etc. Check out this report...
It is not the link to the JRT Trial that is important. It is the information that follows...
This should scare the CRAP out of ALL of us!!!!
The 10 Year Celebration Magnolia Classic
Jack Russell Terrier Trial I and II
November 14 and 15, 2009
Germantown Charity Horseshow Grounds
Germantown, Tennessee
http://www.magnoliaclassicjackrussellterriers.com/2009TrialFlyer.pdf
Everyone needs to know that a dog club member was stopped by police near
Birmingham, AL on the way to the Magnolia Classic Trial. The actual law
enforcement officer was a sheriff's captain for Jefferson County. They held
her for 45 minutes on the side of the road with 6 patrol cars flashing red
lights. She was treated like a criminal. She and her daughter were both
very
frightened by the way they were treated. The policeman asked her if she
knew
why she was stopped and she told them, "No I don't". He said, "I stopped
you
because I saw you had dogs in your truck". Her dogs were in secured kennels
elevated by a table in the back of her truck to be near the topper windows.
Equipment was then stored under the table.
They said she didn't have water in the dog crates. She explained she had
just stopped at a rest stop, let all the dogs go to the bath room, offered
them water and they didn't do well with water in the cups while the truck
moved. Then she poured water in the cups and none of the dogs drank. He
then
said that the back of the truck was not air-conditioned. She pointed out
that the temps were 58 at the time. Then he said she had inadequate
ventilation. She told hi m the dog's hair was moving as they traveled and
there was plenty of ventilation.
He wanted to know where she was taking the dogs and why they were in her
truck. She told him she was headed to a dog show. He asked where the show
was taking place. She stammered and he was sure she was lying. He asked for
documentation to prove she was attending a dog show and proof that she was
entered as a contestant. She didn't have a flyer so she told him to go the
JRTCA web site and the trial would be listed. He called his main office and
had someone go on line to view the site. He told her if she was going to a
dog show why didn't' she have entry forms with her. She told him that she
was going to enter when she arrived.
He looked in the van and asked about the research foundation equipment. She
told him what it was and he stated it looked like drug paraphernalia to
him.
She showed him paper work for the DNA study to prove the equipment was for
legitimate purposes.
He told her he wasn't convinced that it was a proper way to carry her dogs
and he was going to call animal control to come and investigate. When he
called them they said they couldn't come for an hour and a half so he took
photos of her truck and dogs to show to animal control so animal control
could decide if her set up is acceptable or not. They informed her they had
all her information and knew how to contact her if animal control decided
her set up was inadequate. Fortunately, animal control couldn't come
immediately so they let her go.
She had forgotten her brief case with her rabies certificates in them. It
was the greatest good fortune that they failed to ask. You all need to know
that in many areas animal terrorist (nothing they do is right) groups
are in
control of animal welfare and of animal control.
During this event they would not let her daughter get out of the car to
smoke a cigarette. One officer went to the side of the car after she asked
and stood there to prevent her from leaving the vehicle. She became very
frightened and called her father. Then she heard them tell the others to
turn off the cameras and she became even more afraid. Both were made to
feel
like they were in a third world country because they had dogs in the car.
The following are some of the things that are critical to know to keep
you &
your animals safe:
1. Dog owners need to be alerted to the current climate. Please understand
this current outrage may be the direct result of the influence of animal
activist groups disguised as animal welfare groups. Law enforcement is on
board with them in many areas because they view them as experts. HSUS gives
law enforcement positive press. HSUS donates money to many reelection
campaigns. Some officials have been given nice jobs with HSUS when they
retired from public office.
Animal Terrorists are succeeding in getting laws passed that restrict our
freedoms of animal ownership. Their influence is sometimes apparent among
public officials at every level including law enforcement and animal
control.
If you read Saul Alinsky - "Rules for Radicals" you will see the method
they
use to enact new laws that seem so warm-and-fuzzy but in reality are aimed
directly at each of us. They don't want us to have (pet owners you are not
exempt) or breed animals and they are willing to do anything to stop us -
lie, cheat, steal.
According to Alinsky "Rules for Radicals", to affect radical change, First:
you create a problem (out of thin air). Animal Terrorists have created the
language which includes the term "puppy mill", "back yard Breeder", "hobby
breeder", "vanity breeder", "basement breeder". The uninformed jump on the
band wagon and the next thing you know commercial breeders just breed
another litter of pups to offset new costs while you and I are forced to
become criminals, give up our dogs, or to sign away our constitutional
rights in order to have a dog.
2. Keep your dog papers in your vehicle when you travel with your
animals. I
can't stress this enough. I've been guilty of driving without them but no
more. It could cost you thousands of dollars, or worse you could lose your
dogs. Your dogs could be taken into custody to a pound till you could get
your papers to show authorities. You would be powerless to stop them.
Meanwhile, no telling what they would be subjected to in that environment.
Further, some communities/states have laws that state any animal
confiscated
and taken to a shelter must be spayed or neutered before it is returned.
These things might be fought against in court but your animals would
already
be spayed or neutered, or even euthanized, before you could win in
court. It
has happened to others. Eventually some others have won in court but their
animals were all already dead, spayed, neutered, and/or sold to pet people
that "rescued" them from the shelter (who happened to make a chunk of
change off your stolen dogs and from the PR of having "rescued" them).
3. Stay Street-Legal. Make sure your car is travel worthy before any trip.
No lights burned out, no out-of-date inspection sticker, etc. Give them no
reason to stop you for a minor infraction. The constitution still protects
us against illegal search and seizure without probable cause. Above all DO
NOT SPEED. If you are in a big hurry, leave earlier. Giving the police a
right to stop you under color of law has officially just gotten way more
expensive.
Apparently our fellow club member was stopped unconstitutionally - IMO.
Right or wrong, she was victimized only because they could see her dogs in
her car. It is a sad state of affairs when our constitutional rights can be
violated because we have a visible dog in the car. Sadly, you might have to
consider this when you get your next vehicle.
4. Buy or borrow a video camera. Video tape your dogs kennels, the
condition
of the kennel, your dogs' condition, water containers, bedding, etc. Have a
video of your dogs competing at a dog show. If animal control shows up
video
tape the entire event. If they take your dogs, go to the shelter & video
tape the place they take them if possible. One fellow in AL with show pit
bulls did this and he got his dogs back.
5. Keep a contact person's number in your cell phone. If you get into a
situation like the one that happened near Birmingham you might need someone
to call that can send help. We need to develop a system of hot lines
through
out the country so a volunteer in each state or area could come to help in
an emergency.
6. JRTCA members and the Magnolia Group should join with the My Dog My
Choice members and contact the elected state officials for AL and the
Birmingham Chamber of Commerce &/or Jefferson County officials to lodge a
formal written complaint. We need to organize a letter writing campaign. I
will create a sample letter and get us addresses to use. Email me at
mbyrd@centurytel. <mailto> net
<mailto> for this information.
If an area gets the reputation of being in an unsafe place for dog
owners to
travel, exhibitors will not attend events in that area. The person that had
been victimized went home through Birmingham after dark and went to a
different town to spend the night because she was afraid. Even then she was
afraid in the motel so close to the area.
It is bad for the local economy to lose a source of revenue. How many
people
would go to the GA trial, for instance, if they worried about traveling
through AL? Dollars spent in a community roll over 9 times in that area.
Having a dog in the car does not automatically make us criminals and remove
our 4th amendment rights against illegal search and seizure.
7. Just so you know, TN is the state where police shot a man's dog and
victimized his family when he accidentally left his wallet on top of his
car. They thought the money blowing off was evidence that he was a robber.
The man has won a suit in court over it but his dog is dead, his wife and
children are traumatized and his knee is permanently injured.
In LA a man's pit bulls were taken and killed within 24 hours. He proved he
was innocent in court but all his animals were already dead. He is suing.
The newest hype they are introducing as another "First create a problem" is
the idea that dogs have a larger carbon foot print than an SUV. Think that
is too far out to be believed or to matter? Will you still think so if they
pass a law which requires you to pay a Cap and Trade tax to keep your dog,
or a national limit on the size and number of dogs you can own?
You can't begin to imagine the things I'm reading about the
victimization of
animal owners & the loss of our freedom of animal ownership in communities
all over the USA. We must all wake up and become proactive before it gets
any worse.
Don't be sucked into any of the animal terrorists' agendas (like puppy mill
bills etc). And for heaven's sake don't send money to any of them or let
your families and friends do so. It's not just the commercial breeder. It's
not just the pit bull people. It is not just the other guy. It is your
personal freedom of quiet enjoyment with your animals and it is happening
TODAY. We can stand together or we can all fall one by one. Think about it please. |
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ckramer
Alpha Dog
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
Posts: 2928
Location: Kennesaw, Ga USA
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| Wow thats terrible. There should be an emergency call list |
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