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Meadowbrooks
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Location: va
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 Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: Rears Assemblies |
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I like to see pics posted of what people like or correct rear assemblies.. Good learning for newbies in this breed to know what one should look like.
Then allow others to give opinions on them..
Last edited by Meadowbrooks on Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:21 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Meadowbrooks
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Location: va
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: |
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These are rears that aren't perfect but fit more to the standard and is my liken. Lol
Could have shorter Hocks.
Some says alittle over anglelated..
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Meadowbrooks
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Location: va
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: |
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A couple of rears that I consider incorrect but common. These rears I consider being straight.. No turn in the stifle. I love turn in stifle. Probalby more then others. lol
Over all BAD rear.
Straight rear..
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Skylar
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I am one of those newbies.... But would it depend on how the dog is standing? like.. if handler made them in a correct Rears Assemblies? but when relax then they may appear little straight?
Why i am saying this is because i know my dog is not perfect but i have seen her rear in different position when she is pulling, walking and standing etc...
After seeing your example pic.. i checked my pic and think my dog got little large hock and slightly straight rear.. would i be right in saying this?
wanting to walk and alert (about 6 or 8month)
standing without being alert (8month i think)
thought i have more pic of her sideway!!! |
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fffstaffs
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| sometimes it depends also if the dog bends his/her knees. I mean I know for instance that Hawk can stand where he looks completely straight in the stifle and then next time you look at him he has enought turn of stifle and angles........ |
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Skylar
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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ok lets say... would it be easier to know what their rear leg should be if i look at German Shepherd's rear leg angulation?
I think i do know what you mean but i don't want to make mistake and think this is right when i select my new puppy in the future...
would it be safer to say that the dog had to be in correct position 100% of the time without needing to bend his/her knee no matter what he/she is doing i.e standing, walking and resting?
how long/short should hock be? Should their legs be far out of their body?
edit additional below after searching on internet:
because to me now that i have view on http://www.cruisinkennels.com/angulation.htm
would be safe to say that the pic i post... the first pic she appear to have bad rear... on the second pic she appear to have near perfect rear?
Not sure if any of members in here own this website that i have just post... but what do you guys think of this website's Rear angulation of the American Staffordshire Terrier image example? |
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fffstaffs
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Location: Tennessee
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| you have to also consider over angulation. There are certain lines that seem to lean toward this and the dogs are generally sickle hocked and bicycle in the rear. Our dogs shouldn't have sporting dog movement but these dogs generally are flying around the ring so they appear to have a flashy side gait where if moved at proper speed you would see there is no drive |
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Amanda Reichelt
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Joined: 12 May 2008
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Location: Colville, WA (USA)
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This rear I think is not over angulated and certainly not under angulated. I find her rear just right. She moves VERY nicely with good drive from the rear, so no bicyling like FFF mentioned.
MT. BRIER'S CHAMPAGNE BLOND
I had a PURE ruffian male (pictured below) who was horribly OVER angulated and he did bicycle in the rear, he was a mess! His pedigree might have been "AWESOME" like so many people said (with all those famous ruffian greats), but I sure thought he was quite crummy in many different areas. His head, his shoulder angles, his over angulated rear + sickle hocks, overdone body, club feet that were also splayed....no thanks! Oh and he was NOT black as he was registered, he was a definite seal (and a nasty colored one at that, brown all throughout his coat). He was only bred twice (once by myself, and then one outside breeding - then I neutered him after that as he was not what I wanted exactly) and his kids were 10 times better than he was (likely due to the good bitches he had litters with).
ROWDYTOWN'S BLACK SKILLET (RIP "Rowdy") |
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