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Meadowbrooks
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Joined: 12 Dec 2007
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Location: va
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| As long as he isn't running around be a stud.lol |
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Lea
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Joined: 26 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ph1ngering wrote: |
My point again with these studies is what is their base line? Ok lets say the average pits front leg is 14 inches. Let say a litter of 8 all males were let to grow to maturity with out being neutered. My guess is some legs would be spot on 14 inches, some would be shorter and some would be longer.
Now lets say in the study they just happened to neuter the 3 males that would have turned out to be shorter had they been left to grow fully intact? The result would then be skewed wouldn't they? |
As you said it yourself, you dont know how these studies were done so how can you question them and make statements that you dont trust them?
I would suggest reading up on the importance of statistics in scientific studies to answer your questions. |
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Meadowbrooks
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Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 1686
Location: va
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Or just ask other dog owners of their experiences and go from there.
When I neuter, it will be young.. I feel it plays mental games with older dogs.. Get them before they know what they are used for. LOL JMO |
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Amanda Reichelt
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Joined: 12 May 2008
Posts: 617
Location: Colville, WA (USA)
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I always recommend neutering young before they really get their hormones running rampant. Usually cuts out all of that humping and marking crap that follows an intact boy.
I had pups from the same litter neutered and some not neutered, there was a very noticeable difference in muscle development between the intact and neutered boys. Wish I had a picture of them both standing side by side. Both boys were really heavy built as pups (the SAME amount of bone/substance and basically same weight too). The intact dog has sooooo much better muscling than his brother who was neutered at 4.5 months old. Personally I would rather just neuter early and cut out any bad behaviors before they start. But if you are looking for FULL and COMPLETE muscle development then don't neuter until at least 1 year old. But you might have issues with behavior (i.e. mounting and marking and possibly fight other males) if you wait that long. |
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Ph1ngering
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Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 911
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Lea wrote: |
As you said it yourself, you dont know how these studies were done so how can you question them and make statements that you dont trust them?
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I was hoping you would enlighten me.
Studies have been done that say states / towns / cities should ban our breed. Should I just believe them too because someone put together some information that validates there opinion? I don't trust blindly as I have said twice before. |
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Lea
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Joined: 26 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| To be quite honest I just cant be bothered going into each one of them and commenting on how and why they choose those groups, how was statistics done, etc... I posted links to sites that can then allow you to purchase articles and read the whole thing. Then decide for yourself BEFORE commenting on how wrong and inaccurate they are... |
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Ph1ngering
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Joined: 27 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| Never said they were wrong... Just questioning the studies that is all, its all open to debate and interpretation. |
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Lea
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Joined: 26 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Sure, question them all you want once you know exactly what it is that you are questioning, not just because they disagree with what you think. |
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