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*~Anita~*
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Joined: 12 Aug 2008
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Location: Australia
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 Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: eek she killed a chook! |
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I should have seen this comming!
Doc is in a pen....its big enough to run around and play, and I let her out everyday to play and I keep an eye on her when she is out of the pen.
Saterday morning I woke up and went to feed her and in her pen was a dead chicken. She had ripped its head off, ate that, and ate half of the body.
I live in the country, and we have an acre of land. We have 13 well now 12 chickens that are free range. The chicken she killed must have flown over the wire and into her pen.
I have seen her chase the chickens playfully and I always tell her "NO" and she stops. She knows she isnt allowed to chase them. I guess it is in her nature to kill chickens, as I know other dogs do this. I never thought she'd kill one as they are too fast for her, and I also feed the chickens in front of her. She is so young as well!
I am also concerned as we have 3 cats, and the little kitten tries to play with the puppy. I dont let her chase the kitten but she still does it! Yesterday she had the kitten pinned to the ground and it was lucky I caught her in time. I always say "NO" and smack her on the nose and put her in her pen straight away.
I know if I leave her alone she will try to kill the small cat and more chooks as she is still trying to chase them.
My partner wanted to get her put down or rehome her. He said once a dog has the taste of blood it will kill every chook and animal we have. I made him give her a second chance. if she kills another chook unfortunately the dog has to go..as my partner wont allow her to stay.
Any advice would be great. As a child we had a dog who killed chickens and it never stopped no matter what we did. |
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Meadowbrooks
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Location: va
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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oh yes, once she enjoy that chicken, she will want to enjoy more..
But to say you would put her down is foolish.. You can't put a dog down for being a dog.. No disrespect.. But if the dog is not going to fit in then rehome her. Most of my dogs don't like cats and some never seen one but with their drive and seeing a rodent.lol It would be on.. For chickens.. Of coarse this was going to happen. And is it her fault that the chic went in her pen. Now it is the dogs fault. The dog will go after those chickens and you better just rehome her. Or keep her in a pen with a roof on it and never let her out.. the dog will probably get out anyways. IMO
We have a cat that someone left off and she lives on our front deck.. The VERY first thing I told my kids is, IF she goes in the back yard she will be dead.. Nothing I can do about it.. Now if it happens, I will feel bad but I wouldn't put my dog down for it..
I took a dog back because these owners would let a rabbit out and let their dog chase it and thought it was funny. Then the dog caught the rabbit and killed it in front of their kids.. The next night the owners was at my door giving the dog back and said she was agg.. |
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*~Anita~*
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Joined: 12 Aug 2008
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hey thanks for your reply.
I would never allow her to be put down. Its not the dogs fault, its in her nature. My partner is just over reactive. The chicken would be alive if it didnt fly into the dog's territory.
keeping her locked in a pen is not an option at all. its not fair on her.
I will keep trying to train her not to do it, however I think honestly she may have to go to another home.
I really hope not but i know she will kill another chicken 
it is a shame coz I love the dog so much. |
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*~Anita~*
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Joined: 12 Aug 2008
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Also the people we have in mind are a really nice couple with 3 kids. They have 2 other dogs who are pure bred staffy's (the other kind!) and those dogs are treated like royalty. They get stews cooked every night and they live like kings these dogs. They have a bitch and a male who are older dogs.
i hope doc is compatible with this breed. |
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*~Anita~*
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I took Doc out to play today for a while, and as we walked around the yard she didnt even dare look at any of the chickens lol, and she didn't chase them either...so maybee, just maybee there is hope to still keep her.
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Meadowbrooks
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Location: va
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I wish you luck.. Maybe someone on here will give you some advice.
Mine would be don't let your dog out alone.IMO |
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Skylar
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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most of AST and SBT would chase small animal if they run.
Some wouldn't kill (wanting to play chase) and some would get too rough which could end up killing the tiny animal or intention to kill.. Doesn't mean they would do it to human.
It is normal.. But most of well obedience dogs would not touch it in front of your eyes unless they are left alone with small rodent or chicken..
Best to keep dog out of the way when you are not around.
That is all you have to do.
I notice they are lot more calmer after plenty of exercise/run. |
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*~Anita~*
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Joined: 12 Aug 2008
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Skylar wrote: |
most of AST and SBT would chase small animal if they run.
Some wouldn't kill (wanting to play chase) and some would get too rough which could end up killing the tiny animal or intention to kill.. Doesn't mean they would do it to human.
It is normal.. But most of well obedience dogs would not touch it in front of your eyes unless they are left alone with small rodent or chicken..
Best to keep dog out of the way when you are not around.
That is all you have to do.
I notice they are lot more calmer after plenty of exercise/run. |
ah thank you so much. I agree. I don't leave her out alone as she can get under the front gates and there is alot of trucks that drive past.
She does know she isnt allowed to kill those chooks! I will keep training her not to and I will slowly let her out alone and watch her through the window to see how she is alone. I will be so upset if I have to rehome her! My partner has come around now and he can see it is in her nature...its just because he had a dog who killed 24 chcikens lol and it didnt stop no matter what he did. All of the old farmers here have told me that if she does it again to tie the dead chicken around her neck for days.
NOw that is sick!!! It is just an old farmers tale that doesnt work. I have found my girl responds soooo well to positive reinforcment training best. |
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Ph1ngering
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Good luck thats going to be a tough one, but the best thing to do is probably to introduce them over and over again. If she lunges for one tell her no and correct her. Do this over and over and hopefully she'll stop being concerned with them..
I know my boy would go after ever last chicken, he has a bird fetish watches them all day. You have to make your partner understand that its instinct and not because its evil.
IMO its just going to get worse with age unless you can get her to stop now. Its almost like training a cat not to go after a rat, depending on your dogs pre-programed prey drive.
I think our boy would be well behaved while we are around, but when left by himself, look out chickens.. |
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*~Anita~*
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Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 20
Location: Australia
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Ph1ngering wrote: |
Good luck thats going to be a tough one, but the best thing to do is probably to introduce them over and over again. If she lunges for one tell her no and correct her. Do this over and over and hopefully she'll stop being concerned with them..
I know my boy would go after ever last chicken, he has a bird fetish watches them all day. You have to make your partner understand that its instinct and not because its evil.
IMO its just going to get worse with age unless you can get her to stop now. Its almost like training a cat not to go after a rat, depending on your dogs pre-programed prey drive.
I think our boy would be well behaved while we are around, but when left by himself, look out chickens.. |
thanks for the advice. Yea I agree, leaving her alone it would be "look out chickens!"
I have trained our 3 cats to stay away from my *beep* |
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