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porky
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Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
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 Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: Pro's and Cons of owning a Pitbull or Amstaff :] |
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Hello  can you guys tell me the basic + and - of amstaff tell me seriously what you think. Tell me what's hard about this breed too. Thanks |
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shadyblueamstaffs
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Location: Missouri USA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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If you choose your puppy from a good respectable breeder that breeds for proper temperament and type, then you will have an awesome companion for life, a dog that will be truly devoted to you and your family, a dog thats main goal is to please you and make you happy. These dogs are like no other breed I have owned before, they each have so much personality, and so much courage, and alot of the times they are too smart for their own good. Sometimes their brains get them into trouble.
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You have to make it through the first two years of owning this breed before you will understand what I was talking about with the positives. LOL This breed can and will be stubborn so they need obedience training early and throughout their lives. The biggest negative is that you are going to have to be willing to defend your dog everywhere you go. There will always be someone that does not like the breed and will have negative things to say. It's taken some of my family members about five years to finally change their views on my dogs. Alot of those family members are the type that believe everything they hear on the news and were quite stubborn about accepting my dogs.
This breed is amazing when bred right, they are so versatile, but I will admit that this is not the breed for everyone, you have to be willing to put in the time to raise a puppy properly and give them the care and attention and obedience training they need. |
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porky
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Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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thanks for yourt oppinion and information well, if i would go to to trainings regullary with a pro, in some training school, then it should be ok, yeah? yeah, i hear you about the stuff the people are talking, but sometimes they are talking the truth, although i believe, that if you care the dog properly and train and sociolize it will be good  |
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Ph1ngering
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Good Post Shady...
Negatives:
1. Breed can be dog aggressive, i'll go as far as saying 7 out of 10 wont like other dogs that they weren't raised with. But with training and socailization you stand a better chance.
2. Stubborn - but what breed can't be from time to time 
3. Bad rep, like shady said you'll get a lot of looks and attitude.
4. Extremely high drive can get them into trouble, when they get fixated on something it can be hard to get there attention back.
5. they need a ton of attention and exercise daily, its not a lazy mans breed of dog. If not they can become destructive.. They need constant attention and exercise.
Positives:
1. Outgoing personality, they really have a meat head personality.
2. Powerful strong will, will do anything you ask of it when trained right.
3. They smile all the time, once you get one you'll see.
4. Extremely high drive, when you have trained them to focus this on you and what you ask them to do for you nothing can get in there way. The can get tunnel vision and be very focused to a single task..
5. Very smart dog, our little junior is and escape artist.. He out smarted me serveral times when trying to confine to the kitchen.
6. Loyal extremly loyal dog.
7. Great with kids and all people.
8. They are Agile and Athletic, they Love to Swim, Run, Play Frisbee, ect..
9. Short coats, less shedding..
10. I could go on and on why i love this breed.. But thats a good start... |
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shadyblueamstaffs
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Location: Missouri USA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Yes with proper obedience training and socialization you and your pup would do just fine. I really enjoy taking my dogs to obedience classes at young ages because not only does it set a good foundation for your dogs obedience but it is the best way to socialize your dog early with other dogs and other people which is a key thing also when raising an amstaff. |
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shadyblueamstaffs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| There ia also alot to take into consideration when choosing a breeder, but that is a whole other thread in itself. |
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porky
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Joined: 10 Feb 2008
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Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, that's why i'm going to buy a thoroughbred dog not a mongrel to be more sure about his psychics and so on how much does amstaff cost in US ? thoroughbred one? just curious, coz here, in Lithuania, he costs about 840 US Dollars ( that's in your money )... |
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Ph1ngering
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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You will see them any where from 200 - 2500, but paying more doesn't mean your getting anything better.
Its more important to research the breeder and see the dogs.. |
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porky
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| as i understood, shady is a breeder, yeah? so how much do he/you take for one amstaff with all the documents? |
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shadyblueamstaffs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I do breed on occasions. A show quality pup would costs 1000.00 + shipping costs. I guarantee the health and temperaments of my pups, they also come microchipped, up to date on shots, dew claws removed and with all the necessary paperwork. We do sell 'pet' pups for less though, and we sell them on spay/neuter contracts with limited registration. At the very least the parents will be OFA certified for hips and OFA certified for hearts by a cardiologist and AKC DNA profiled. One or both parents are usually Champions and most of my dogs are temperament tested, still working on the rest.
But if you search for a pup where you live, I would look for a breeder that at the least tests for heart and hips and can guarantee the temperament as well. |
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porky
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| there isn't much breeders here of amstaff's i know some, there are maybie 3 of them and that's all and they are official ones and so on the parents are from dog shows and so on |
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ellie@ny
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Negatives:
1. Breed can be dog aggressive, i'll go as far as saying 7 out of 10 wont like other dogs that they weren't raised with. But with training and socailization you stand a better chance.
2. Stubborn - but what breed can't be from time to time
3. Bad rep, like shady said you'll get a lot of looks and attitude.
4. Extremely high drive can get them into trouble, when they get fixated on something it can be hard to get there attention back.
5. they need a ton of attention and exercise daily, its not a lazy mans breed of dog. If not they can become destructive.. They need constant attention and exercise.
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I'm sorry,but I have to disagree on these points,if you think high drive,DA,are the bad points,how can you own this breed?
These aren't poodles,and I don't feel these dogs should be socialized with other dogs,other then his own pack,dogs are not humans,they're pack animals. |
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Ph1ngering
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I don't think high drive is a bad thing, thats why i brought it up in both positive and negative.. If you don't know these dogs have such a high drive and prey drive then you could get into a bad situation..
As for being DA, yes I think that is a negative trait, I am doing everything in my power to have junior not be DA.. I don't want a fighting dog, I want him to like other dogs. You can have your own opinion thats what a forum is for, we don't have to agree...
I stated all of these traits so that he would be aware of them, wouldn't you rather have someone new to the breed be aware of these traits before he or she goes and buys one. Rather than the dog hitting two years old hasn't been socialized and gets a hold of the neighbors dog and makes the news?
Do you think this breed has any negatives? The only one I truly call a negative in my opinion is being DA. The rest can all be positive traits if you are aware of them and put in the effort.
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Ph1ngering
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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These aren't poodles,and I don't feel these dogs should be socialized with other dogs,other then his own pack,dogs are not humans,they're pack animals. |
Trust me I know these aren't poodles, but to not socialize your dog is a dis-service to this breed. When I go out in public with my dog, which I do almost daily. I don't want him snapping at every dog that walks by. What opinion do you think the public forms when they see that. It re-affirms what they heard on the news that pit bulls are crazy and dangerous..
Anyone buying an amstaff / pitbull should go to puppy classes and socialize there dog as much as possible, with humans and other dogs..
Plenty of pack animals are social with other dogs.. Even Wolves packs have friend packs in upwards of 80 plus Wolves. They even meet regularly in peaceful manner.. So I don't see what being a pack animal has to do with being social..
--Craig |
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ellie@ny
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Craig,I still think OUR dogs should not be out in doggie-daycares,dogparks etc anything that has to do with other strange dogs out of controll.
I take my dogs out to public parks,stores etc on daily basis,but not to introduce them to the other dogs...People?Anytime!
I train them around distractions out in these parks.
I never let anyone,except very close friends dogs,who I know,to come into my dogs face,because 80% of the people out there know NOTHING about their own dogs.
Dogs don't need friends out of their pack,IMO until they don't get a bad experience from another"friendly" dog,they'll be neutral to others.
Obedience has a big part on how your dog acts in public places,and not how many friends they have.
Remember on that one day your dog might won't start the fight ,but sure he'll finish it. |
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